Rumor: 2015 Shelby GT500 to Have More HP Than the Challenger Hellcat

2015 Mustang GT350 / GT500 Carbon Fiber

Oh boy, the 2015 Shelby/SVT/GT350 rumors are on the front burner once again. According to sources, an S550 Shelby GT500 replacement with more horsepower than the 2015 Dodge Challenger “Hellcat” might be revealed sometime soon.

UPDATE on 9/15/2014 – A Twin Turbo 5.2L GT500 Is Coming

UPDATE w/ Pics on 9/19/2014 – Possible 2015/2016 GT500 Spied in Camo

The seemingly timeless King-of-the-hill battle for horsepower supremacy in the American muscle car market is heating up once again. After Dodge revealed it’s 2015 Hellcat Challenger would be the most powerful V-8 muscle car ever, CNN and HK say Ford’s 2015 halo Mustang will be revealed shortly and could potentially top the Hellcat. Here’s the exact quote, from CNN:

A Ford spokesman wouldn’t comment on its competitors car, but a new Shelby GT500 with, potentially, more power is expected to be revealed some time soon. ” – CNN Money

2015 Mustang GT350 Carbon Fiber RearThis could be big news for more reasons than just bragging rights for Ford and simply Because Race car. We’ve heard a few quiet rumors and watch a video centering around a 5.2L N/A “Voodoo” engine that could be a potential replacement for the 2014 Shelby GT500′s Trinity motor. However, we’ve also heard what sounds like the Trinity engine testing (most recently here) under the S550′s hood and if Ford is still in the top horsepower running, they’ll likely need to be beefing up the existing 5.8L from the 2014 GT500.

To add more controversy to the hefty pile of speculation that already surrounds this car, there’s also the possibility that we won’t be seeing a return of anything comparable to the 2014 model year (MY) GT500 until MY 2016, and that’s salt on the wounds for a lot of Mustang die-hards that have been salivating for a chance to see and even own a Shelby/SVT version of the S550. Seeing as Ford hasn’t even told us the power figures for the 2015 Mustang GT, V6 or EcoBoost[UPDATE: Ford has released official power ratings for the 2015 Mustang] but is taking pre-order on a car with a expected delivery dates penciled in for fall, 2014 at the earliest, I wouldn’t expect any concrete information our of Dearborn on a GT500 replacement until we at least get all of the base model figures.

One thing is certain–with the Hellcat’s unveiling, we’re all eagerly awaiting Ford to tell us something about the SVT / GT350 variant that is to take the 2013-32014 GT500′s place.

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  • billy dogman

    it does not matter how much HP it has its the Ugliest mustang ever and I use the word mustang loosely.

    • Kyle Rohde

      So tired of all the complaining about the styling being too modern,
      being too European or whatever else BS I keep reading. The reality is
      that baby boomers are getting older and aren’t going to keep buying cars
      that look like the cars of their youth. And there aren’t enough younger
      people like me who like the retro enough to buy it. Mustang sales have
      been in decline for years and the decline has to hopefully stop. Beyond
      that, they’ve already copied the best elements of the 1st gen Mustang
      for the past 10 model years, so what so you guys want – a new Mustang
      II, a new Fox?

      To survive another 50 years, the car has to evolve and attract buyers
      from all over the world. It’s still got plenty of Mustang cues, plenty
      of power and is still a Mustang at heart, without a doubt. So get over
      the styling people because it’s not going back to retro any more.

      And as for this rumor, I seriously doubt CNN Money is going to get the scoop on the new car when every other credible media source has said it’s going to be a GT350 with a N/A motor. So like Howie said below, this rumor is more than likely bunk.

      • bondosho

        Clap clap clap clap clap Very well said sir, very well said.

      • Jamie Currence

        AMEN!!! But on the other hand a new Fox would be cool.

      • Matthew Hurt

        OH GOD never another Mustang II! That car was a sacrilege, it should have been called a Pinto II. I can’t wait to see what the new body style will bring out with body kits.

    • Deandre Morris

      Yes it may be ugly but ill take this over a fox body any day and I know the fox has a 5.0 but going strictly on looks the fox is the worst mustang ever they put in the 5.0 because its better going than coming

      • Neckbonekat

        Ummmm, this Mustang is better going than coming. How is that better when a car only looks good driving away?

      • Kyle Rohde

        You clearly have never seen a Mustang II or even a ’71-73 land yacht Mustang.

        • Joe Smith

          Exactly ! Lol

      • Trent

        I’m just hoping the rumors are true, all of them… Think about it N/A high revving FPC’d track star (GT350), then you’d have the twin turbo variant reserved for the quarter mile monster making upwards of 750 hp (GT500)… Anyway whichever way you slice it, name it, whatever, we the enthusiast profit…

  • Sebastian Sassi

    It doesn’t need to have more power…the existing GT500 is only a tenth behind because it’s not quite as portly as the Challenger. Knocking off the Dodge shouldn’t be difficult.

    • Andrew Stolzman

      It needs better suspension and braking

      • James Lethcoe

        Which it got. Brembos and IRS.

        • Sebastian Sassi

          Not that there was all that much wrong with the old car some Motul 600 and some bushings from Maximum Motorsports couldn’t square away.

  • Adam Guerich

    ford already has a 850HP GT500 Super Snake…

    • Dan Heller

      That is a modded GT500 from Shelby’s own shop.

      • Ford Mustang

        i really don’t get how people don’t know this. Ford only had the gt500 with 662 HP for 13 and 14 (it had significantly less horse power from 07-09 and 540 hp from 2010-2012). Any other mustang with shelby nameplate was modded from shelby’s shop in Las vegas (i believe there are 2 other locations too) if you’re gonna talk about mustangs educate your self on them first. Do this for any topic before you decide to talk about it please

        • James Lethcoe

          They also have the Shelby 1000

          • Neckbonekat

            The Shelby 1000 is all stats but no great performance numbers.

      • avery

        But though it’s “modded” it is still a ford/Shelby product that comes with a warrenty. It’s not like comparing the hell cat to a home mod.

        • Brady Gustafson

          Many built motors and other aftermarket parts come with warranties too…does that mean they count too? The Underground Racing Lamborghini’s come with a warranty, they are a Lamborghini product with a warranty so I guess that means they can claim that they produce 1500+ hp cars right?

          • Icetrai

            Let’s be real, Shelby sells it’s GT500 through Ford at any performance Ford dealer as Ford car. Underground doesn’t sell it’s car at a Lamborghini dealer….

      • Jose Cruz

        Actually the SuperSnake is a Ford Built special order from FORD not Shelby. It is a track ready car that lays down low 9.s 1/4′s directly from dealer room floor to the track. It comes with no warranty since it is intended as a track car only. It can however be modified for street use. The Shelby GT1000 is a SHelby special order street car that uses the GT500 as the base platform and retunes it with some extra mods. It comes with two keys to allow the owner to run it at 500HP for daily use or at 1200HP for the full on output it was built for. It is warranteed for 2 years from Shelby. And it still kicks the snot out of the Hellcat. Even the GT500 kicks the snot out of the Hellcat… lighter, quicker, faster and even more fuel efficient doing it. If The Supersnake were road legal and the GT 1000 could produce more than 25 per year then the Challenger HellCat would no longer be able to claim its the most powerful production car. There are about 100 Supersnakes produced each year with a 90k price tag on them. If they were street legal they would be a Corvette z06 killer since it pulls a 2.s 0 to 60 along with those 9.s 1/4′s. Basically the Hellcat has nothing on it. The GT1000 is a Corvette Killer as well, but with so few produced it is a modded car status not production. Either way the Hellcat is just a pussycat next to either of them.

  • Dan Heller

    Jacking a current ’13/’14 Shelby up over 700HP takes about a 1/2 hour for a modern speed shop. All it needs is a slight overdrive lower blower pulley & a tune.

    …resulting in a 10.5 1/4 mile time on DRs. :-)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ8rqWgmItU
    -& from what I read in the comments, this only has an intake, throttle body, tune & slicks – no more boost…

    • pattycake98

      wow really stressing the word only

  • osage power

    ford / shelby makes a 1000GT cobra it was built right before carroll died in 2012 but never massed produced not allowed in calif top HP in cali is 650

    • bondosho

      Uh, I can go buy a 667hp GT500 right now at my local Ford dealer here in Orange County, CA.

      • Jorge Sanchez

        Thanks for letting us know u shit money lol jk

        • bondosho

          That’s not what I’m saying, I’m just saying that 650hp is not the limit here in CA. Not sure where he got that info. I did ,however, buy a Focus ST in February ;-) .

  • mxzxguy

    The hell cat, should be compared to the super snack, not the shelby 500, the RT8 is the 500 competition, and we know who wind that one hands down, Shelby

    • Jorge Sanchez

      No, the SRT competes with the GT, and SS, the hellcat is to compete with the GT500 and ZL1

      • avery

        Wrong it’s rt vs ss vs gt. Once you start going to special groups that’s a new class. Like when ford makes a svt or Shelby model. It’s base v8 vs base v8. GT vs ss vs rt. Dodge fans just use that as an excuse because the challenger v8 in stock form makes shit for power.

        • 2Sweet2

          Mopar looks the best & now they run the best period. I like mustang & Camaro 2 but dodge challengers got it right 2SWEET2

          • SFBay69 .

            challengers look cool and so do teh 2014 mustangs

          • Eric

            800+ hp baby :) See my comments above.

        • bcl187

          No dude cause SRT has an aspirated engine 6.4 no SC… So it does compete with GT n SS.. If ur lookin SC (supercharge) then yes HELLCAT is direct competition to Shelby and ZL1.aspirated vs aspirated and supercharge vs supercharge..don’t argue kid

  • SteelRaptor

    There is already a Shelby 1000, shouldn’t be hard to tack on HP

  • ClevelandKid

    Ford does not have a 850 hp Super Snake. That is a Shelby upgrade. Not a factory one.

    • avery

      But it’s still a product of ford/Shelby that comes with a warrenty. It’s not comparable to home aftermarket mods. It’s still a licence Shelby product. If you say that than the gt500 is just a modded gt and the hell cat is just a modded srt8 or rt.

  • Howie

    Everything out their has said repeatedly that the GT350 is goino to be naturally aspirated and, more a spiritual if all around better successor to the Boss 302 so I’d put this supposed Hellcat fighter squarely in the realm of unfounded speculation.

    Perhaps after the GT350′s run, there will be a retort to the Hellcat but not in 2016.

    • bcl187

      Lool ya sure..Ford Aspirated! Lpoooool ford is euro turbo charger. That’s why I love dodge cause they more aspirated then both ford n Gm. U guys don’t even sell v8 sedans anymore.

  • Spanabama

    What the hell does a street car need over 700 horsepower for??? This is getting ridiculous. Maybe it’s just for bragging rights…..If it is then go ahead and really overpay for your bragging rights.

    • Randy05gt

      honestly its for bragging rights. but in the same aspect if you can have a car that has 700+ horsepower and still have the same daily driver driveability as a base model gt or even v6, it just wakes up when you hit the gas, wouldnt you like to have that.

      • Keith

        It’s actually designed to attract sales believe it or not.

  • Jared Moore

    Well, I’d hope they wouldn’t surrender the hp title easily.

  • Jane Morgan

    It take about $1600 to push the GT500 to 800hp. The trinity engine in the 13′-14′ GT500′s are detuned and a couple little changes make a huge HP increase. Put some drag radials on it and bye bye Hello Kitty…. pooff

    • Steve Harley

      Lets wait and see the race results. My money is on the Hellcat.

      • My nigga

        I bet the 2014 gt500 would beat the hellcat. It traps almost 4 mph higher in the quarter and is 600 lbs lighter with only a 40 hp deficit

        • Steve Harley

          Well, we can look up their 1/4 mile times. Going to do that right now. You should of looked it up before saying what you did.

          • My nigga

            You should look it up and you’ll see everything I said is correct. If I were you id change my bets before that fat cat gets embarrassed by last years gt500

        • Steve Harley

          Check this and then take a pill. lol

        • Steve Harley

          I looked at the times and the Hellcat is faster than the 2014 GT500. So now what?

          • Jonathan Edsell

            So your comparing a car that isn’t in production yet…..to a car that is already out of production?

          • Steve Harley

            They have many Hellcats out and about at the tracks and on our roads across America. I’m sure the 2 have raced already. Full production starts very soon on the Hellcats. Whats the problem???

          • Mobey Dick

            There are no 15 SRT Challengers released to the general public yet, NONE!

          • Steve Harley

            Nobody said anything about any released to the public. And why all the hating on the Hellcat. One day Ford may make a faster production car. lol

          • Mobey Dick

            10 days later and no production vehicles on the streets!

          • Steve Harley

            Production starts in the 4th quarter. Hello. lol

          • 2nazty

            wrong, already started LOL

          • 2nazty

            We’ve shown a pre-production hellcat to a local club at the plant, car has been out on the roads up here in Brampton, only driven by senior management at the plant, a few other regular 2015 preproduction cars have been around up here for testing, that’s the extent of it

          • David Murphy

            They made the ford gt, gt40 witch both have gotten awards for speed records. Ford.made the first functional v8. Svt made a street legal 1000 s/c mustang and gt witch they both had.over 1000 horsepower. So your point is.

          • Steve Harley

            We are talking regular production cars. Not special one, two or 3 of a kind cars. And Shelby cars are not regular production. And your point was?

          • 2nazty

            sorry man see the above comment….coming from a launch team member of your beloved hellcat LOL

          • http://batman-news.com Rrunner80

            There will be as of the weekend of September 26,when Barret Jackson auctions off the very first one off the production line for charity

          • Mark Dellacqua

            Full of shit.

          • Steve Harley

            Have you not seen any videos of Hellcats at the track. I have. What is your problem Hater? Wow. I have never seen so many cry babies. So what Dodge has the fastest production car ever made. You can still buy your too small for me Mustangs and be like and look all the other pony car drivers. Have a nice day Mark FullofShit.

          • Chaxce

            You do realize that the hellcat is NOT the “fastest production car ever made” right? It’s just the most HP, I bet the hellcat can’t take a corvette for instance and I’m sure there are plenty of other production cars that can take it too.

          • Steve Harley

            Fasted Production Muscle Car. Excuse my mistake.

          • 2nazty

            hey Steve Harley….hate to burst your bubble
            let me start off by telling you I am a employee at the Brampton Assembly plant that builds the Challenger, Charger and 300…I also have been involved in the pilot program for the hellcat….no one has raced the hellcat against a Shelby yet, truth be told no one outside of the SRT pilot team has been able to replicate the numbers posted as the official 1/4 mile times for the car…..I also am a Shelby owner and I can guarantee you I will be one of the first to race against the hellcat as some of my co-workers have them on order. I have already run my Shelby (a 2014 – completely stock) faster at the strip than the “official” times issued by Chrysler…..the fact that independent testing has only been able to reach a best time of 11.7 sec in the quarter mile with the hellcat should tell you something……keep an eye out on youtube for the video its coming soon………

          • Steve Harley

            And I work for NASA. LOL

          • 2nazty

            Really? so its Dr. Harley of NASA we are speaking to…WOW I am impressed….lol you seem surprised that there are Ford enthusiasts that work for Chrysler LMFAO trust me bud I’m not the only person that works at BAP that is a mustang enthusiast…..like I said video is coming as soon as one of my co-workers receives his, so far I have 2 people lined up, one with my buddy who ordered a 8 speed auto car and another with a guy in my dept that ordered a 6 speed manual car, I will make sure to put a dedication to you on the intro to the video so you have no confusion as to the legitimacy of my claims……Im talking facts…you are blowing smoke out of your ass like a typical fan boy

          • Steve Harley

            I must of hit a nerve. So much hate. Amazing…..

          • 2nazty

            LOL you are too funny bud, I suppose you would give your testicles to have my job right? work for Chrysler at the plant that builds them and be privy to info on new models in the pipeline and engineering information right? Let me tell you if you were to see how these cars are constructed you might not be bragging right now, there are many quality issues that get swept under the rug, almost a daily occurrence and the part fit up of the components used to form the cars? LOL well either german engineering isn’t quite what everyone thinks (underpinnings are still Mercedes E class from mid 90′s) or the corporation has laxed quality control considerably with our suppliers
            say what you want but I have first hand info at the source, you are relying on internet BS and misleading facts issued by chrysler

          • Steve Harley

            I ordered a 2010 Challenger RT Classic back in March 2010 and it arrived mid April. I have not had one problem with my car in 4 1/2 years. First new car I ever bought. Completely satisfied. And no I would not give my testicles to have your job. I like the job I have. You like your Ford and I like my Dodge. Not much else to say on the subject.

          • Joe Smith

            I like the hate, kept to a limit of course, keeps Ford, Chevy and Dodge producing better cars. Me personally, I love my Challenger, but respect Camaros and Mustangs as well. Last car show I went to, was put on by a Ford club, got to check out all the Mustangs and the sneaky s*** done to them, especially some older 5.0s, so now I know who not to mess with on the street so I don’t embarrass myself lol

          • Dan Heller

            More power to ya bud. I would absolutely LOVE to watch an out-of-production Shelby walk away from the Hellcat. It will be a close race. I won’t be putting money on either. haha
            -Make sure to have your launch control all dialed in… ;-)

          • 2nazty

            absolutely, the funniest thing is the guys that work for me at the plant that are getting hellcats, one guy who has approximately same amount of drag racing experience (15+ yrs) wants time to run his car down the track for a few months before racing (he ordered an automatic car), the other guy wants to race for pinks (has next to no real experience running at a track) and ordered a 6 speed manual, should be fun….I just want to be the first Shelby owner to run against one

          • noah

            smae with my brothers work they think the challenger better when mustang not ut of production

          • Andrew Selzer

            if you will be posting this to youtube you should post a channel name

          • Ricardo SS

            Let’s not forget the fastest track car out there you know the one that took out the Porche 911 and Godzilla GTR, yea that one the one and only Z28 lol but what do I know

          • chris

            The hellcat is nice but how is it the fastest if the supersnake is 808 hp

          • Steve Harley

            Does the Supersnake come from Ford as a Supersnake or does it come from Shelby as one. If it comes from Shelby it is not a Ford production car. The Hellcat is a Dodge production car. We are talking production muscle cars.

          • Leo Green

            Aftermarket! Shelby, Roush, Hennessey, Callaway, to name a few

          • noah

            now ur gonna say dodge is better because for once since 1964 the shitllenger might be better thats just one time fag wait try to compare the 2014 shitllenger to 2014 mustang shelby gt 500 its not even a comparison mustang blows that shit away get over it fords better

          • Mobey Dick

            What times, the ones from the promotional that FIAT produced.

        • backwoodsbronco

          Your gt500 might beat it 0-62mph and beat the challenger hellcats top speed of 199mph, but you lose to both in a quarter mile (challengers is 11.2 on stock tires and chargers is 11 flat on the stocks) plus, the charger hellcat will do 204mph, beating your ‘stangs 202mph, and lets face it, they claim 707hp but it puts down 635 at the rear wheels, add a 12% power loss (being very conservative) and that puts its closer to 722, which is still a very modest assumption in my educated opinion.

        • Leo Green

          hellcat has the 8 speed transmission and is always in the perfect shift

      • Mobey Dick

        The 12.18 the hellcat did in Denver says otherwise. The GT500 is 600 pounds lighter and that’s 6ths that the Challenger can’t make up. The power to weight ratio is still in favor of the GT500.
        3,850/662= 5.8157 pounds per hp..
        4,449/707= 6.2927 pounds per hp..
        The quickest any person other then the boys at FIAT will ever run stock with stock tires is 11.4s, the quickest stock with stock tires GT500 has ran 11.25.

        • Steve Harley

          I think all the Ford Pony Boys should wait until they actually race each other. Then we will talk. And I do believe the 1/4 mile time for the Hellcat is 11.2 stock tires and 10.8 with drag radials. For the 2014 GT500 it is mid 11′s to mid 12′s depending on the driver.

          • Mobey Dick

            MT just published their test results for the 15 SRT Challenger, 11.7. I do think the general public might get that down to 11.5, maybe! BTW, that’s .1 slower then the 14 GT500.

          • 2nazty

            you are so gonna eat those words LOL you and the rest of the world is going to be in for a shock

        • http://batman-news.com Rrunner80

          That is at 6000ft….everything that runs at Denver posts slower times then pretty much every where else…nothing runs normally at that altitude…what did the mustang do at denver…i bet it was a good bit slower also!

      • 2nazty

        so how much do you want to bet? hopefully you are one of those people that put there money where there mouth is

    • Joe Smith

      Why the name calling? Just be happy Ford and Dodge are competing and we get some awesome cars. I have a Challenger R/T, love it. Bought it a month ago, reminds me of the cars I drove as a kid. But Mustangs are great cars, light and fast. Raced a few, saw some taillights lol

      • SFBay69 .

        Agreed. Love my 2013 Mustang…..but camaro owners don’t lol

        • Joe Smith

          I’m sure Camaro owners admire your taillights

          • JimmyGee

            …until the Camaro passes you in the corners… (give credit where credit is due)

          • Joe Smith

            Well i passed a Camaro with my big heavy Challenger the other day through the corners. But when you are driving like that, the drivers skill factors in a lot too. I’m sure a more experienced driver in a Camaro would have pulled ahead of me. But it was fun.

      • NYCstandup

        Mustangs are not light cars dude, that’s why they have big engines to push all that weight, they are fast but their handling is average at best, my 1988 13b naturally aspirated turbo 2 vert rx7 isn’t called pony killer for nothing, only type of ponys I can’t fuck with are gt500 or svt cobra r but don’t be fooled.

        • Joe Smith

          If you had the Turbo 2, weren’t they a turbocharged 13b? Thought the nat aspirated 13b just came in the regular RX7.. Not sure, never had one. Besides light weight, those rotary engines revved fast, making for a pretty quick car. Of course, 147-200hp in a similar displacement 4 cylinder nowadays isn’t that much. 2016 Volvo S60 may have a 450hp 2.0 liter I-4…put us all to shame

          • NYCstandup

            Yea sorry for confusing you, it was a naturally aspirated until I put the turbo 2 on it, my rx7 has about 250 to the rear after some performance upgrades, kinda weird that lower hp rotaries can beat higher hp pistons, I’m trying to get a 20b but that engine is like 12 grand

      • KennyG

        I like your answer as its much more diplomatic than most that respond to cars and their performances. I have a Shelby that runs very quick but I also confirm that one should be racing against themselves. Running after others to be the fastest is a goal you will most likely never achieve. No one car will ever remain at the top between the NA models as each is coming out with stronger builds lately. Shelby was a leader for some time, then came the hellcat. I hear for 2015-16 ford will be producing 3 quicker cars to the likes of a 10,99 sec supercharges 5.0 mustang and an even quicker Halo GT500 with a minimum of 750+hp. Beyond that I’m sure GM will be throwing something into the mix as their supercharged Camero has fallen back behind a few others now so we will keep our eyes open for their next release.

    • Tresss3

      You are obviously a typical ford idiot. Why does Shelby charge $40,000 for an 850HP mustang including a supercharger then? And it’s $40,000 + the cost of a GT500.

      • Matthew Hurt

        I would just get the GT and add boost. Cheaper and lighter than both and can turn out loads of power.

      • Eric

        I have a 2011 GT500 with 800+ HP built and tuned by SVT Ford Racing. It dynoed 700 HP / 670 TRQ at the rear wheels (699-703 hp / 667-672 on 3 runs). With an aluminum one-piece driveshaft, stainless LT headers, etc., my curb weight is 3,700 lbs. Do the HP and weight math. Bye, bye 707 or anything else ;)

      • andrew

        Shelby is charging 40,000 for a modifacation to the gt500 to make it a super snake. give dodge time and they to will offer a way to beef up the car. dodge did it with the viper. but we need to quit comparing the srt cars to Shelbys they are 2 different class of cars if you wanna compare use SRT vs SVT. yes i know there are SVT parts on a Shelby but Shelbys are not fords look at there titles.and lets not forget about Rousch.

    • Steve Harley

      Same can be said for the Hellcat. Spend about $1600 and I am sure there can be more horsepower than its 707. Still spending that money on a GT500 does not make it the fastest American production car ever made. That would be the Hellcat. lol

      • Mobey Dick

        Fiat has locked the Computer, a small mod like long tubes would make it run lean and melt the pistons. If you can’t reprogram the computer there is little on modern power plants that can be done to increase the HP. You can buy a stand-a-lone computer that runs both the Engine and Transmission but it cost about $5,000.00
        $1,600.00 in mods on a 13/14 GT500 will boost HP to about 725hp at the rear wheels.

      • Shambles

        Yea but I’m pretty sure the guy was not talking about the 14 not 15 or 16 so honestly with mustang weighing less in order for your challenger to beat it it needs to see jenny Craig first. And also mustang performance took a hit when shelby died so get ready for the new age shelby!

      • Matthew Hurt

        Problem with that is dodge always holds their tech to themselves so making them faster is hard and very costly. Ford always shares with the after market during the cars development so that mods are ready when the 1st cars rolls off the lot. Every manufacturer should do that, they would greatly enhance their following.

      • LDopa

        Take your blinders off bud, the Challenger Hellcat isn’t even the fastest Dodge (the 14 SRT Viper TA is). The only title it has is, “highest horsepower rating from an American production car.” It’s not the fastest anything. Vipers beat it, ZR1′s beat it, GT500′s are right there with it, and that’s not counting anything from Europe or Asia. It’s an impressive HP figure, that’s all. At the end of the day it’s just a 4500 pound piece of sh!t Dodge. (And no I’m not a Ford or Chevy fanboy.)

        • Steve Harley
          • LDopa

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptZbFx6v98I

            Drag radials, they’re a hell of a thing.

            I’m sorry, but the title of “Fastest American Muscle Car” (meaning it’s faster than the Camaro and Mustang (the other two muscle cars)) doesn’t really impress me. It’ll be faster for a year or two then the Challenger will fall back into obscurity when the new Camaro and Mustang big dogs roll out. It’s a 4500 pound, 198 inch long sh!tbox.

          • Steve Harley

            I drive a 2010 Challenger RT as my daily driver except in the winter. No problems. I love my Dodge. Mustang and the Camaro are too small for me. I am 6′ 2″ and 250. You like your brand of car and I like mine. No reason to be such a hater. Grow up.

          • LDopa

            I’m 6’3″ 245 and the Mustang and Camaro cockpits are too big for my liking. Not sure why anyone would need even more room upfront, but I don’t really care. Hater? What you drive is of zero consequence to me, as I wouldn’t be caught dead driving any of the aforementioned shitboxes. I prefer creature comforts and style to go along with performance, something american performance cars don’t offer. Glad you enjoy your sub-par vehicle.

          • Steve Harley

            Opinions are like @ssholes. Even you have one.

          • LDopa

            Sticks and stones may break my bones, but at least I don’t drive a Dodge.

          • pattycake98

            too bad corvettes aren’t muscle cars. they’re sports cars

          • LDopa

            See where I said, “(meaning it’s faster than the Camaro and Mustang (the other two muscle cars)).” That was me saying the Challenger, Camaro and Mustang are the only three muscle cars.

          • pattycake98

            ope sorry

        • Steve Harley

          Fastest American production Muscle car ever made. Wow I just said it wrong.

        • Dan Heller

          Actually, it’s a 4500 pound Fiat. ha

    • dustin trussell

      So your saying if you mod a GT500 you could make it faster than the Hellcat… Say it aint so…

      I just had a light bulb, you could also mod the Hellcat… wow, who would have thunk.

      Its funny what fanboys (and girls) will do to justify their bias.

      • 2nazty

        hellcat ECU is locked for warranty reasons, no mods

        • dustin trussell

          For now..

          Just like the 392 was locked. Its just a matter of time before there are tuning options.

    • Lei Free

      Lol so you can get 800hp from a GT500 for $1600 huh? Your either high off PCP or just talking out the side of your ass. The Super Snake is 850hp with a MASSIVE Kenne Belle Whipple Supercharger that makes over 20 pounds of boost & huge vented brakes that absolutely SUCK by the way will cost you $90,000 or $40,000 if u already have GT500 and it runs 12 flats but has the ability to do 10′s either way its still not as fast as a hell cat which does 11.2, 10.8 & 11.7 ALL DAY & a roll from 40 to 180 haha yea the GT500 with that nice power deficit would definitely be behind.. Stop talking out of your ass it makes u sound silly!

    • Omar Saynomore

      And the Nissan GTR with its measely 545 whatever hp shits all over these cars, wow ive never seen so many people winge about cars in this way, your all so ridiculously competitive about your cars. If you were all wealthy you would have all of them and wont be bad mouthing one another.
      American muscle cars are great but in terms of refinement and engineering they are mechano compared to the japs or germans so stop your whinings and just enjoy what muscle cars are…
      Under engineered beasts with power outputs so high because they are not smart enough or willing to put enough money into the engineering so the cars can be as fast as even 450hp european or japanese cars.

  • Steve Harley

    Once we lighten the Hellcat to the same weight as the Mustang then we will see who is faster in the 1/4 mile. So bring on the 2015 Mustang. I can’t wait.

    • Jorge Sanchez

      They have to redesign the Fiat first

      • Steve Harley

        You can buy any car and lighten it yourself.

        • Jorge Sanchez

          Of course anyone can lighten their cars but this is about the factory cars as they are

          • Steve Harley

            Well then the Challenger Hellcat is the FASTEST. Enough said.

          • Steve Harley

            And we are talking 1/4 mile times. Just so you don’t get all confused. lol

    • bcl187

      It’s very true…mustang gt is 410 hp car like 3700+lb and it pushes mid 4 secs. That’s pretty crummy numbers for a light pony. Beepers that weigh 5000+ lb do better numbers then that.

    • 2nazty

      UPDATE: The first impromptu hellcat vs Shelby race occurred last week on October 14th in front of the Brampton Assembly Plant…race was not even close I pulled 5 car lengths on the hellcat between the front parking lot and the east lot….LMFAO
      Now all hating aside I honestly believe this was more a case of the hellcat driver not being very experienced, plus racing a factory pilot program car against someone on the street would generally be frowned upon….that being said the Shelby still won….

  • Corey Thompson

    I love how people are bench racing a hypothetical mustang that doesn’t even exist yet against the hell cat. Sounds like dodge sure struck a nerve with this car.

    • Brandon Reid

      The old 2014 Shelby GT500 could win against the Hellcat, sorry to burst your bubble.

      • Corey Thompson

        The hellcat hasnt even been released yet to be able to see real world numbers, but you’ve already confirmed this to be true. Cool story. You must have worked on the engineering team.

        • Brandon Reid

          From what SRT says about the Hellcat’s stats you can tell that the Shelby would still smoke it. 40 more hp, around 400 lbs heavier. It is obvious that if the actual Hellcat is anywhere near those stats it won’t beat the Shelby. The difference between Shelby and SRT is that Carroll Shelby didn’t build cars to be beaten. I don’t know why you think this little kitty cat is going to beat a legendary car like the Shelby GT500.

          • Corey Thompson

            I never said it would. I just find it quite amusing how defensive Mustang owners are getting over the Hellcat. This coming from an owner of a Mustang AND an srt8.

            Im not one to provide commentary on hypothetical races with cars that havent even been released to the public yet. Stock for stock maybe the hell cat is slower by a small margine. The real question is much mod potential will the hellcat have over the gt500, which does have a smaller engine.

          • Brandon Reid

            Mustangs always have the most mod potential. That is why Mustangs are always on top of sales in the pony car world. Anyone in the world who thinks a new pony is going to beat a new Mustang is in the clouds dreaming. Ford has owned this category for 50 years, you really think they would give slack now?

          • Corey Thompson

            Ok hold on, so the mustang will have more mod potential simply because Mustang? Dont mean to burst your bubble but mustang sales have been declining due to the camaro outselling the mustang.

          • SFBay69 .

            Camaro is barely beating a 10 year old platform, barely. Still the coyote is a better engine esp when boosted. Had both.

          • Steve Harley

            I don’t recall any Fords beating Mopars at the track in the 60′s when Mopars ran with the 426 Hemi engine. So 50 years, what a joke.

          • Brandon Reid

            I don’t recall Mopar even having a car to race against the Mustang for 34 years. This isn’t the 60′s bud, the reign or Mopar has come and gone, Ford’s remains constant. I give the Challenger a few more years and it will be discontinued yet again.

          • Steve Harley

            And the hate just continues. Well I will keep on enjoying my 2010 Challenger RT, 6 speed manual. You haters can keep on hating. Have a nice day. See you at the track.

          • JD Burke

            It’s funny that you say the 60s are gone. Trying to erase the golden age of NASCAR, Drag Racing, and Muscle Cars, I see? Also, can Ford at least try to replicate the classic design of the Mustang? It seems the Dodge boys are the only ones that know how to assemble a classic piece of muscle, inside and out.
            And always remember, HEMI is love, HEMI is life.

          • Brandon Reid

            The 60′s weren’t the golden age of drag racing or NASCAR, the 60′s were the golden age of muscle cars, all of which have died out and come and gone(Challenger, Camaro) but not the Mustang. I wouldn’t buy either because only the Mustang is made in the USA, where muscle is meant to be made. Both of those POS are made in Canada. Ford is moving forward with some nostalgic, modern designs; Chevy is doing the same, Dodge is only making a modern car from the exact same design they used in the 60′s and 70′s. No creativity at all, that is the whole point of designing a car, creativity, the Challenger has 0. These cars are ‘modern muscle’ the Challenger is just muscle. HEMI is foreign , HEMI will fail again….

          • pattycake98

            no creativity? what the fuck is this? art class? the fact is, most people that buy the cars are mid- life crisis guys who remember these cars from their childhood. not some aston martin looking piece of shit.

          • Mark Dellacqua

            Exactly, Mopar hasn’t built a decent muscle car since 1970.

      • Steve Harley

        Bone Stock from the factory the Hellcat wins every time. Wow. I can’t believe how upset the Ford fans are getting. A little jealous I think. lol

        • Brandon Reid

          Dude you obviously know nothing about cars. It has 40 more horsepower and weighs 400 pounds heavier than the Shelby. What makes you think 40 more hp is going to compensate for its weight? The old Shelby is going to beat it and Ford is going on an even lighter body frame next year, this car doesn’t stand a chance, even in the la la you are in….

    • Steve Harley

      They sure did. lol

  • THE AUSSIE

    Hi Americans. I am an Australian and I Love all the American Built Mussel Cars weather its a Dodge, Chev or Ford. I had a 1965 Fastback 10 years ago and regret selling it but we all have one of those stories. Speaking as an Aussie we cannot wait to see the new Mustang arrive here in our Ford Dealers show rooms. We have to wait till September 2015 to see a right hand drive release. Me being a fan of the 65 Fastback I LOVE the new series 6. I think its the nicest Mustang since the series 1 1965 Fastback. Nice to see Ford got it right to take on the other option that Americans have . We will take the new Stang with what ever they send our way in Right Hand Drive. We just hope we get a bite at a Shelby, Roush or a Saleen. Fingers crossed. We will take the new Model how ever it is :) )

    • Jorge Sanchez

      I like this guy lol #respect

  • Kyle Carlson

    I’m a Dodge man and I love my Challenger and when it comes to Engine size and horse power the Challenger has always been on top. However due to it’s bulkier and heavier frame it would still lose a head to head against a Mustang or a Camaro. With that being said I have a hard time believing that the Mustang will make it’s Engine with much more horsepower because it doesn’t need it. With 5.8 V8 with 420 HP it blows away a challenger with a 6.1 V8 and almost 450 HP so to give the Mustang a much bigger engine would be completely unnecessary not to mention it would either dramatically increase the price or take away from other aspects of the vehicle, but I am nota professional by any means and this is just my personal opinion

    • Dustin Wood

      A few years ago I took my 2006 Mustang GT to a Street Legal Drag day. I just wanted to see what the car could do. I’ve done a CAI with tune, and replaced the Cat-back exhaust. It woke the car up. Probably putting it just slightly over 300HP, since I think stock was around 270-280.

      But we’d line up against whoever was next to us, and went head to head with a stock STR8 Challenger. I beat him by just a few .10′s of a second. So I was proud. Not that it really mattered, because my next run I was taken by a diesel truck, and it wasn’t even close. heh

    • Bachewy

      Actually, the Mustang GT 5.0 has 420HP (2014). It’s the Shelby GT500 that has the 5.8, not the GT.

  • http://www.shoveitupyourass.com troll

    Ohhh my… too many trolls here… bye.

  • Steve

    Now if anyone could afford it…..

  • Jacob Scott

    GT500 is so Ratchet

  • Jason Haddad

    The 2016 Chevy Camaro ZL1 will have more power than both the GT500 and the Hellcat at 1,050 (yes, ONE THOUSAND AND FIFTY) horsepower, and it’ll be a nine-second quarter-mile car – no kidding! Especially if this ever happened.

  • Jonathan Edsell

    2014 challenger srt-8 4250lbs. How much more is the hellcat going to weigh? Is in in the pickup truck class?

  • Michael Harris

    Gt500 wouldnt need more than 600 hp to dust the new Dodge HC. Being nearly 800+ lbs lighter will take care of most of that.

  • Michael Harris

    I would bet our old 13-14′ GT500 will beat hellcat, easily. See, Dodge posted their own private 1/4 mi times. That’s not legit till all the mags have done it. Also, based on experience with supercharged SRT8′s of the current variety with 730hp, they are barely running 11.3′s at 123 mph and that’s with 400 lbs less weight from not rear and passenger seats, no sound deadening material, smaller 19″x 10″ wheels that are 25lbs each, lighter then the SRT8′s OEM 21 or 22′s and so on. So I HIGHLY doubt the SRT Hellcat in full street weight is really going to be any faster than the current 662hp GT500. I’d bet on 11.6-11.7@120-122 mph. The fastest tested GT500 did 11.5@127 mph, the slowest tested 13-14 GT500 did 11.8@124…. Just like the old C6 Z06. The fastest C6 Z0 did: 11.7@124, but the slowest C6 Z0 did: 12.2@119 mph. Or such as the case with the current 5.0…. The track pack with its 3.73 gears/tires/suspension gets to 60 mph in 4.5 sec in perfect onditions with a pro. Same car and pro driver in 100 degree heat runs a 5.3 0-60… Now same driver but in a base 5.0 with stick, 3.31 base gears/tires/suspension, in perfect conditions does 0-60: 5.1 sec, and in the 100 degree heat, 60 comes in 5.8 sec. So many variables, many different configurations. It amazes me how many people are magaine racers and think since the magaine says 0-60 in 4.5, that they can do it, or better yet do it in a base car!!!! LoL!!!! NEVER.

    • B. Oblamer

      But Shelby ran the 1/4 mile down hill.

    • 2nazty

      see my post from today :D Shelby 1 Hellcat 0

  • Daddy-O

    I wonder if anybody ever thinks to consider that when these cars are tested by the magazines that they could be at differing altitudes, ambient temperatures, and track temperatures? These factors make a monstrous difference in the testing results. To add to that, the driver can make a huge difference as well…this would include how well he can leave, what shift points he makes (the redline is not always the best shift point by the way), and how fast he can shift if it is a stick. So, if you can afford either one, just get the one you like best. If you can’t afford one just keep magazine racing…because talk is way cheaper than actually owning one.

    • Steve Harley

      Well said.

  • Chris Maupin

    One thing people need to realize is Ford always under rates their motors, look at the dynos for stock gt500s and the Zl1 camaro. Ford rated at 662 but puts 600 to the wheels. The camaro put 495 to the wheels, only a 60 HP drivetrain loss for the Mustang either means the underrate the power or they know how to really prevent drivetrain loss better than anyone. The 03 cobra was similar. I bet the he’ll at has around the same hp to the wheels once you take the average %15 drivetrain loss.

    • Chris Maupin

      Hellcat

  • Mark Dellacqua

    Ford has been ruling the roost since the 5.0L fox body Mustangs – 30 years and counting. The Ford 5.0L motor dethroned the Chevy SB 350 years ago and nothing has changed since then. Ford even wins the Funny Car class with it’s Boss 500 motor.

  • dave

    Hellcat is a cool car and has 700hp. Cant take that away from it. But since 2003 till this day there has not and is not a car out that can go pound for pound, hp for hp, penny for penny how ever you wanna look at it, that can touch a cobra and I dont see that changing anytime soon.

  • Jeff Warner

    What happened to the SC1000?

  • Cory M Levermann

    I love how everyone is so impressed with driving fast in a strait line. Put me on a road track with my stock wrx and I’d smoke the gt500 and v the hellcat. Strait line driving is for bitches

    • Mike Chambers

      Nobody cares. Everybody likes to get into battles on the street, where – guess what, it’s almost always a straight line. That’s why.

    • Cory M Levermann

      Every car sucks nuts End of discussion

  • buzzkill2014

    The current Shelby GT just spins the tires. All that power is wasted as most of it never hits the pavement. I would rather have the same horsepower and better handling.

  • B. Oblamer

    Horsepower war breakouts! Groovy!
    Chrysler uses a supercharger to reach 700+ HP.
    Ford puts a politician under the hood to blow vast quantities of wind bag air to produce similar horsepower.

  • Browser :-)

    Uhm, nice to see ford people go nut’s over some that’s STILL not the fastest car in the street’s or world. My money on Hemi/Mopar far as Reliability, Style, Quality, and oh yes, CANT GO WRONG WITH AN GOOD OLD CAST IRON BLOCK!!!! Remember, Aluminum run hot “”"1 TIME”"”,,,,, lmao just hand Chevy or Ford 15,000 Plus For An New Engine PLUS LABOR!!! The Hemi’s Back Then As My Dad Say To Make It To 68, the only DAAAAAAAAMMMM problem with them hemi’s back then, the Valve Cover’s GASKET’s Was’nt CRAP! Other then that, GOOOOOODDD DAM CARS NEXT TO THEM “PACKERS” that YOU COULD’nt HURT MOTOR OR TRANNY!!!! BIG UP’s To Dodge/Chrysler/SRT/FIAT/Jeep Doing The Dam Thing bc they been down FOR YEEEEEEEARS!!!!! Now, we dont wanna go there on WHATS WORTH BUYING bc Chevrolet Got 36 Plus MILLION RECALLS ON AAAAAAAAAAAALLL THEY CARS THEY MADE FROM “NOW all the way back to 1996……… FORD has an recall on ALLLLLLLLLLLLL THEY cars From Now to 2003 in total of 40 Plus Million Recall’s”! Im 33 an sit back an watch the SCENE AND READ an so far i know, Dodge The Only Thing Worth Buying! Dont Forget People, That’s Your HARD EARNED $$$! Now chevy try’na be slick by bringing back the PONTIAC in 2015,,,,,,,,, THAT SHHHHIIIIII AINT GONE HELP’em BC AFTER PONTIAC CLOSED IN 2009, THEY DID AN RECALL ON EVERY DAM CAR MADE FROM BETWEEN 2004 to 2009!!!!! PEOPLE GET TIRED GETTING MANIPULATED BY THE SALESMAN EVERY ALMOST 10 DAM YEARS FOR SOME WORTH THEY $$$!!!!! Now, the recalls that CHRYSLER/DODGE had was just 800k Jeeps which is veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrry small compared to CHEVY AN FORD an under 100k Fiats Recalled also. To face the fact’s Ladies and Gent’s, My money on WHATS WORTH IT IN ALL!!! I went an looked at the new camaro’s and mustang’s. Ok, if them corporation’s gone make the Car’s Lighter and put an Piece Of Crap Only Guranteed 200k Miles ALUMINUM Motor In It That’s Only Good For “BEFORE RUNNING HOT ONCE,,,,,,,,,,, then they need to chop that price tag to “$12k”!!!!!!! I respect all dealer’s but DONT HUSTLE ME FOR AN PIECE OF CRAP but “”"TO MAKE IT WORST, LIGHTER FAST CARS MEANS 2 Star’s Out’v 5 CRASH RATE TEST, NOT NO DAM 5 OUT’v 5″”"!!! Also, when i looked at them both, the door’s light as hell an SHUT’s SO RAGIDLY!!!!! Why The Hell Am I Hearing Glass and Plastic and Fiber Glass Rattle Together in’a NEW FROM FACTORY 30k PLUS CAR????????????? FORD AND CHEVY, DONT HUSTLE YOUR CUSTOMERS TO KEEP YOUR JOB! Chrysler/Dodge/Fiat car’s More Dam Solid and I Understand They Price Tag. Like my dad always say, “”"WHEN IN THE HELL PAPER START COSTING MORE THEN METAL”"”??????????????? My Money On Style, Reliability, Comfort, Road Smoothness and A CAST IRON BLOCK THAT MADE TO DEAL WITH “”"HEAT”"”!!!!!!!!! Did i mention most Mustangs and Camaro Folk’s Trading They Car’s For An MOPAR bc the Mustangs and Camaro’s ride like an WESTERNS LOG WAGON!!!!!! That’s y’all money, im not fina get lead on to some i gotta deal with for more then One Year. Challenger’s Made For Weekend Driving Any Way and From Back To Front,,,,,, THE COOLEST OLD SCHOOL RETRO CAR EEEEVVVVVVER HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNDS DOWN, PEEEEEERRRRIOD ;-) ;-) ;-)

  • Lei Free

    Shelby 1000, 1200hp car which costs $210,000 not very impressed with the 9.7 I saw 1 run with that kinda of horse and 0-60 in 3 flat oh yea it only did 204mph at the texas mile, the HellCat charger matches that top speed with 4 doors and 500 hp less thats pathetic truthfully. Shelby Super Snake 850hp car with a price tag of over 90k and the Hellcat challenger is right with it look up the times if im not believed and then you have the Real Strip ready and nothing but Cobra Jet @ 100k & its not street legal by any means although it does do 0-60 in 1.52 sec & 0-100 in 3.62 I think tooo damn fast but its just a drag car that u buy from ford.

  • Phillip Masiewicz

    What Ford needs to do is resurrect the Boss 429 name plate… A fuel injected, supercharged Boss 9 would send the Hellcat home licking its wounds…

    • Steve Harley

      Then what would a fuel injected, supercharged 426 Hemi do??? To bad we didn’t have the money Phillip to do this project. Would be a great race. And to make it fair we would put the Hemi engine in a new Dart. lol Or make the Challenger the same weight as the Mustang and see which engine would really make its car faster.

      • 2nazty

        already been done look up the nuformz challenger, it has a supercharged 426 hemi, they ran it against the 2008 Shelby Super Snake, both cars were fairly even in terms of HP and torque….the dodge lost, here is a link to the match up:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiaO-uaHQD8

      • 2nazty

        LMFAO good luck fitting ANY V8 into the dart….chassis is not capable of handling it….as for the weight well go look at the video, only 100lbs difference, sorry even with the mopar driver running both cars, the dodge loses LOL

    • 2nazty

      John Colletti of SVT already built a fuel injected Boss 429 project car in the late 90′s

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KejqvPk–VE

      also:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfExFUbn5Dc

  • Travis Cannon

    I am a ford guy. But I am just happy to see dodge step its game up, be honest you die hard dodge guys, dodge lost it for a few years there. Our American cars can finally compete with those Euro track cars.

  • Mike reilly

    I’ll show you my ramrod Jane Morgan if you show me your Hello Kitty. I will ride you like a Mustang with the injection of my Super Snake.

  • Kevin B

    Kevin B.
    I own a 2014 gt.500 from what I understand the new

  • Michael Harris

    The Ford Racing team has just completed testing of a few simple bolt-ons and a (under development) tune for the 2.3 & 5.0 and a SC’d 5.0….. I’m happy to report that Ford themselves, have taken the first Eoboost into the mid 12′s at 110mph, a nearly stock 5.0 into the upper 11′s at 117 mph and another nearly stock SC’d 5.0 into upper 10′s at near 130mph… All on 17-18″ slicks, stock trannys, stock clutches. That’s 2013-14 5.0 speed in a 2.3 turbo, supercharged 5.0 speed form a light bolt-on 5.0 and GT500 beating speed from a light bolt-on & supercharged 5.0…. And near Z06 stopping distances with BOSS Laguna Seca handling to go with it. And despite having an IRS, this new platform launches nicely.

  • Michael Harris

    So basically, we are talking about a NA 5.0 with a few bolt-ons running Hellcat 1/4 mi times, (while only being 5-6 mph slower)….. Now that’s a serious response to Hellcat. No GT500 needed to defeat a Hellcat now. Add a few more goodies to the NA 5.0 and 11.4@122-124 mph will be achievable in a mild bolt-on 5.0.. Think about that: slicks, a under development tune and long tubes= Hellcat 1/4 times!!!!! Add full exhaust, throttle body, light weight flywheel, and a light driveshaft and now you have a mid 11 sec car that’ll run low 120′s, NA and with these adds to the SC’d 5.0, this would put it into 10.6-7 range at over 133 mph…. The Hellcat is a heavy, heatsoaking car with brick aerodynamic properties.

  • JimmyGee

    It is unfortunate that they are reaching the limit of the chassis’ ability to put all the horsepower to the ground. Not to mention the greater weight in the nose spoiling the handseling.

  • Terrance Brunson

    In my opinion, the Hellcat(S) and the Trinity GT500 are all badass cars, the overall winner will vary from car to car/driver to driver. Lets keep it competitive and save the trash talk for the blacktop…or the red light :)
    That’s the basis of the controversy isn’t it?